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NEGKREYOL



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mwen rekonet pa gin anyen the nouvelle sous le soleil tout sak te la kounyea te fet deja... min se pa reson pou nou pa bay Djakout sak pou li.

KUNTA...poste sa pa gin place li except for where you stated the resurrection of Compas after the ZOUK explosion.

TABOU COMBO, with their FUNKY style, te toujou ap fait moun volé ponpé.

Le who? minm se pa palé...Yes, DJAKOUT is playing like the System of old but with their own twist to it. Se pa sa yo rele progresé?

Pran yon bagay ki te la deja epi fel pibon.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the bit of history, Kunta.
Yanvaloo, I will go easy. Laughing I disagree with you, but I will go easy. Cool
who?, I am 99.99% certain that there is NOBODY under the age of 10 here on this board. I am also 99.99% certain that the MAJORITY of us here on KM grew up listening to konpa. Whether you are a DJAKOUT fan or a fan of any other band, here on KM, the MAJORITY grew up listening to konpa. Therefore, I will NOT say that we discovered konpa 10 years ago. It is possible that some of us may have started attending bals 10 years ago but LISTENING/DISCOVERING konpa 10 years ago? Nah!! I won't stand for that all.
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vèkèlè...Djakout # 1



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I am not right, explain to me why the Djakout bands never recognized materials that did not originate from Djakout.


Mwen pa wè gin yon probleme nan sa non mezanmi...

Les formations musicales de nos jours ne font que reprendre ce qui a ete deja fait... Fok ta gin yon moun ki komanse mezanmi mais il faut mentionner que certaines de ces formations musicales ont donné une nouvelle direction au compas direct.. Mwen pa vle di ke konpa ANCIEN yo te konn jwe a pat bon non .. UHMMMMMMMMMMMMM ..

Jacmel Sursum Corda....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mwen rekonet pa gin anyen the nouvelle sous le soleil tout sak te la kounyea te fet deja... min se pa reson pou nou pa bay Djakout sak pou li.



Neg wap suivre frè m'...Yo soti pou yo kraze Djakout la ak bouch yo selman, bon dye bon...

Neg la ekri post li , li bay yon generalite li pa we ki jazzz pou li pran en exemple DJAKOUT MIZIK...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lil'biggyted14 wrote:
Ban'n eseyé pran têt mwen byen pou mwen pa confused.

Nan 4 Las, Roberto said "Baby Rey, ou pran afê'w back, sé ou ki té vini avêl, ou pap kitél pou yo" something like that. In some posts before, this groove is from Reginald Benjamin (System Band); in some other posts this groove is from Eddy Wooley (DP); I'm pretty sure that there will be another one/another person old enough to say that this groove is from someone else in the far past...or maybe latino.

The way my old man explained it to me, Konpa/Rampa themselves are originally from Latin bands/musics; so there will always be a far away source for every groove/sound. Nothing has been created!!!
tout bagay té la déja, nou tout ap pwizé nan sous kité la déja-a


I don't think we should go further with this issue just because whatever we are doing right now has been done, in a way, before. So why are we complaining??? DP was a superb band if Djakout is coming back with something that DP has done before that should be very good for us.

BUT there is a difference between reviving a groove-style that was and copying a groove (tempo by tempo/subject by subject/tone by tone/pitch by pitch) from someone who just did it.


Ou konn sa'm enmen nan diskusion sa... Pou on rezon ou pou on lòt yo toujou ap extrapole'l Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
Stil la se konpa... Nenpòt mizik konpa dwe gen on resanblans e se sak fè yo rele tout konpa...
Kouniè an leu on moun kopie on bagay nòt pou nòt se sak situasion an la
Nan mizik sa la m'pa wè kote Djakout kopie nòt pou nòt... Mjust pa wèl
Men kouniè an map pale de on bagay ki kopie nòt pou nòt... Pa extrapole diskision an... Kou di zanmi an se malonèteté intelektuèl si nap fè sa
Mèsi kanmenm pou mizik la Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not wanna post about this matter, but I'm so confused now for o long.

Kunta, I remember, you were the one to post the topic "DP EXPRESS' HOMAGE TO T-REGI", a series of mix comparing DP's style and Djakout's. I was really surprised to see how T-Regi was following the trace of DP's guitar player. However, I was so surprised to see you again posting that Djakout was playing the worst kompa out there. I said to myself. WOW !!! That's some really serious contradictions. But I said maybe I missed a piece of the story. So I decided not to comment about that. Now, you come back again to confirm one more time that Djakout's groove is from DP. I know DP is one of your favorite band, and you love the way they played Konpa. If Djakout is playing DP's groove, how can you explain the fact that they are playing the worst konpa right now? I'm just curious.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can play a nice groove from a good band, but does that make you play excellent Compas? DJakout has an entertaining Compas, but to put it as the best Compas arrengement category? NO WAY! Entertainment music...that is DJAKOUT. Arrengment...Not Djakout. Look at NU LOOK for that category.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don Gabbana, I think you got me wrong on that one.
I'm not saying Djakout is copying note by note
I said that Djakout is using/reviving a groove-style from a great band (DP) unlike some other bands that are copying Djakout's groove note by note.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do you think Djakout is imitating DP [u]very [/u] malman, like Berto like to say? Because you didn't say Djakout is not playing the best konpa right now. You said "one of the worst". In the same time they're imitating DP, one of the best konpa band according to many, including you.
I know if you are imitating a brilliant band, it's not guaranted for you to be the best. But being the worst depiste that matter ... I just cannot believe it. And I truly think they are not so bad imitating DP since you clearly see who they are imitating.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the post on Ti Regie's groove and Djakout's poor style of compas.

Remember...T-vice started off copying Micky, but they were not as good as micky, but we know they copied micky's swing style. From that, the band improve on it. Djakout's arrengements went down with Ti Claude's departure. Djakout is just about entertaining rather making quality music. It works for them..I can't hate on that, but I can remind people who keep thinking that groov is djakout's that it is not.

They are not copying DP style. It is a swing/rhytm they implemented into their music. No band can copy the full DP style. I have seen bands trying to play DP music fall flat on their face. DP was too fast. Right now no band is playing teh full DP style. The swing is what we are talking about. DP's beat per minute too fast. Ti regie is not that quick. You will need to good guitarist for that. Just like in the GRACE song...you can hear the swing I am referring to around 5:30 into the song.
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