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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kunta,
As far as Djakout comparison with DP, I see where you are coming from. The tempo is similar except Djakout is the newer version and the animations are different. I think if Garcia was still in Djakout, the comparison would be closer. It is good that you came up with this post because I will pay closer attention to DP now.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
laly wrote:
Lil'biggyted14 wrote:

“[color=red]Djakout's songs are like a research paper or a thesis

When you are doing a paper or a thesis, you go and look for different information about the subject; you go online; you read books; you ask questions/interviews; you conduct surveys; you read previous thesis/papers; you observe; you do some experiences (life and/or lab);... and at the end you have a great paper, your advisor likes it, a group of professors approve it; and now you are good to go to a PhD level.

Chachou can tell you more about preparing a thesis as I never had to do one (lol, just joking sister; si tu me le permets)”[/color]

A thesis requires more than just research and literature references. It also entails proposing a new concept, or come up with a significant contribution to the field of interest. This new concept or significant contribution needed to be supported by literature references, or other research performed by expert on the specific field. I think your analogy is misplaced since Djakout and any other group contemporary konpa groups have not contributed “significantly” to the advancement of konpa genre since Nemours Jean-Baptiste.

Laly



This is the problem I have with the older generation of any music genre. You mean to tell me none of today’s group contributed to the advancement of konpa? You mean to tell me CaRiMi that travel to Olympia, Amsterdam for example is not advancement. You mean to tell me Haiti of Yesterday has to be Haiti of Yesterday to call it advancement.

It is hard for me to imagine for an artist that has been doing music for 20 years, never come up with anything to advance the field of expertise. After 20 years, Micky, Alan, Ti Pouch, Roberto, Renaldo, Brutus, Ralph Conde, Roro, Mamane, Richie, Shedley, Tantan, King Kno, etc. etc. have done nothing for the advancement of Konpa? Are you kidding me? Come on now.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
DJ Pepla wrote:


It is hard for me to imagine for an artist that has been doing music for 20 years, never come up with anything to advance the field of expertise. After 20 years, Micky, Alan, Ti Pouch, Roberto, Renaldo, Brutus, Ralph Conde, Roro, Mamane, Richie, Shedley, Tantan, King Kno, etc. etc. have done nothing for the advancement of Konpa? Are you kidding me? Come on now.


In all honesty, Carimi was doing nothing more than taking advantage of a legacy already established by Tabou. Tabou had introduced konpa to that part of the world before the Carimi crew knew how to pick up a musical instrument.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lil'biggyted14 wrote: “in 50 years, they could have done more (that's the reason we are talking about imporving it, crossing over latin and/or AMI markets), but they actually kept konpa alive.”

This is exactly my point. After 50 years the survival stage should have been crossed already. For the past 20 years we went from full band format to digital format and now back to full band format. There has been improvement in technology, sound quality but that’s about it. We need a lot more than that musically and business wise.

Skah Shah, Bossa Combo, DP etc…, especially Tabou experienced some type of fame at their prime. There is no significant contribution nowadays. This is just young kids from different generation who are trying to play kompa according to current popular culture. To me significant means major, substantial from previous accomplishment. In another word the contribution must be upward linear and cumulative.

Example: If Nemours Jean-Baptiste band, playing alone, used to have concert with 500 attendees, and Tabou combo came along had a sellout concert with 5,000 attendees, or sold 100,000 copies of an album 20 or 30 years ago then a new band must be able to build on that and have a concert with 10,000 participants, or sell 1 million copies of an album.


Laly
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