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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:03 am    Post subject: At the risk! Reply with quote

At the risk of sounding judgemental I have to say this. The thing in the article that disturbed me the most was the fact that "she admitted to being with men for money" or just to get what she wanted. My biggest problem with that is that the "young and pretty" in Haiti do this for all the wrong reasons. As opposed to being with men for money to get an education, (go to some school to learn something or at the very least feed themselves and families)...They do it for MATERIAL possessions, a pair of designer sunglasses, jewelry, wrist watches, and even cell phones, and phone cards. When she said she is young and beautiful, This was exactly what came to mind. "Use what you got... to get what you don't got". I don't think that this is an example for the young and beautiful in our country to take note of.

In general beauty fades with time...then what happens next??? THAT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE (both in doing it and in admitting to it) Back Up needs to understand that the fact alone that she gave this interview, and the fact alone that she has done so many outrageous and overzealous acts in the past proves that she has not grown out of her ways nor mentality. What Nancy hopes to have attained in Back Up is just another asset for her to use for her personal gain. SUPERSTARISM The band in turn was profiting from the fact that she was "young and beautiful"...it has it's prices,rewards and disadvantages.

Considering her behavior, and demeanor...she has not changed, and probably never will, no matter how much they nag and bother her to do so. There is a haitian expression..."Mennen koulev la se youn...fe'l chita se deux" It's too late now to get her to chill! SO either they take her as she is or they Arrow

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As is often done in these controversial discussions, different people find different points on which to elaborate which all in itself is great, but as usual it causes us to steer away from the original point.

It goes without saying that few people would ever endorse or even remotely condone what Nancy has done in the past or has revealed in the interview, including those of us who know the sad reality of our country.

But allow me to truncate the debate and re-shift the focus back to the rushed suspension decision made by the band under ostensible pressure from panicked sponsors. How in the world can anyone justify that-given the fact that these people (to date) have greatly benefited from the very openly sexual behavior and attitude that they suddenly find so "shocking" and abhorent? Where was the "indignation" and "moral outrage" before? Rolling Eyes Arrow
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misskompa wrote:
Sa malerez la di la, pou yo gintan suspan'n li an...

Sa Nancy di yo se bagay kap fet toutan nan societe nou an, so mpa we poukisa tout moun sezi...
Le'm tande tout pale' anpil sa m'te panse' se yon bagay grave ti pitit la te di nan magazine lan wi.

Nancy girl, keep your head up... if it doesn't work out with Back Up, life goes on... I have more respect for you now....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Hipchick for seeing my point!!! Gen moun ki ka we li pa fe sens pou yo suspann li men se imaj li sponsor yo gendwa ap defann!!! In the USA, where people are more open-minded, people get suspended for less than dat, so I dont c why all this outrage about the suspension!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeanVALjean wrote:
As is often done in these controversial discussions, different people find different points on which to elaborate which all in itself is great, but as usual it causes us to steer away from the original point.

It goes without saying that few people would ever endorse or even remotely condone what Nancy has done in the past or has revealed in the interview, including those of us who know the sad reality of our country.

But allow me to truncate the debate and re-shift the focus back to the rushed suspension decision made by the band under ostensible pressure from panicked sponsors. How in the world can anyone justify that-given the fact that these people (to date) have greatly benefited from the very openly sexual behavior and attitude that they suddenly find so "shocking" and abhorent? Where was the "indignation" and "moral outrage" before? Rolling Eyes Arrow



jvj pitit... te kwe se minm musicen sa yo, minm sponsor sa yo ki pa pe menm le yo gen 50 ans ... yo pa pe couche ak on timoun 13 ans because they have the upper hand.

The phrase in Haiti now is depi ti moun nan ka traverse larue pou kont li... yo ka couhce'l.

interview nancy an should make them look deep inside themselves pou yo we sa y'ap fe an pa bon.

As a man si ou genyen kob ou rencontre on jeune timoun ki nan bezwen, mwen pense ou ka fel kado 50 dola americain san ou pa couche'l.

Yes... people from th diaspora ki pa ga jwenn fanm isit or even wehn they are married... yo ale haiti to go take advantage of these young women who unfortunately feel they have no other way out.

Interview nancy saa... written the proper way with the right slant te ka fe anpil moun rantre au fonds de yo minm pou yo sispann fe on seri de bagay.

min yo pito ap fe hypocrizy... si y'ap condamne nancy se pou yo condamne tet yo avant.

I'm almost positive they are just as guilty as she is... if not more so.

When a grown ass man kapab gen couraj pou'w couhce a timoun 13 ans... ou pi anto pase timoun saaa.

And to briefly respond to eve's statement...we're not saying that these things only occur in Haiti. child prostitution is rampant in a lot of third world countries.

However, maybe because Haiti was such a conservative country... bagay lan pat sou moun konsa. Moun te konn fe'l oui... but not as much as they are doing it now.

People knew certain few places to go to do things like that...men kounye a kote ou pase haiti you will find a young woman willing to sleep with a man pou moso manje...bagay yo red.

and besides... we are talking about a haitian artist who got suspended from her band after revealing that she use to engage in such actions... so of course we have to talk about Haiti.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

En réalité...
-Konbyen nan nou ki tap “cool konsa pou di bagay sa yo pa grav” si sete yon ti soeur nou or yon ti cousine nou ki ta nan situation sa yo?
-Konbyen nan nou ki tap dakò (like you pretend it) si yon partner nou ta bay yon interview konsa? Wink
Anpil nan nou se aktè nou ye: nou cool, nou san problem, nou "open-minded" tout autant se pa nou kap face yon situation Rolling Eyes

A vrai dire, gen anpil jeune moun konsa “timafi” nan la rue a: absence parents nan vi ti moun yo, delinquence juvenile, raisons econmiques etc… se tout bagay sa yo ki cause mode de situation sa yo. Et ceci se pa seulman en Haiti, nan lot peyi (gro peyi s’il vous plait) genyen jeune ki lagué tèt yo nan bagay sa, piga nou pran pretexte se situation Haiti a “klorox” ki fè jeune yo aji konsa. Nan America comme exemple, 60 à 70% jeune fille ki ap mennen vi sa yo (prostituée nan la rue, sa kap danse nan club naked, sa ki nan magazine porno etc...) yo entre laj 18 à 25 ans.
Yo just pat gen yon bon baz education kote parent yo te prezan pou ede yo pa chwazi rout sa yo.
D’ailleurs Nancy di li clairement “li nan lari a depi laj 13 ans”, fòk nou konprann se pa forcement lavi du ki cause situation sa yo.

Pawòl ki nan interview sa yo tres choquant, peut-etre Nancy te ka konprann après yon tel interview li pral plus “superstar”, but en realite se pa vre. Ok nou tout te ka gin ti fanmi nou ki nan move vi sa yo, se normal pou situation Nancy yo kapab fè nou mal, but pa gen moyen pou yon moun fier de sa li di yo en pensant que Nancy gen kouraj pou pale konsa or pawòl li yo kapab yon bon exemple pou jeune yo…

1-Quelque soit situation que yon moun trouve li, pa gen excuse/rezon pou li gen 2 patnè en meme temps. Nòmalman tout moun gen 2 pieds, men sa permet yo maché nan 2 rout en meme temps. Ok "X" pakab ede moun lan economiquement, or bay bon randman or moun lan pa imajine yon futur avec li, si se bagay sa yo ki important pou moun sa en question; se kite "X" epi pran "Y" no matter what...
Se principe lan, se bon exemple lan. Tout moun ki aji contrairement, se pa yon compliment men se yon honte.

2-Anpil moun fè erreur nan lavi yo, alors li toujou bon pou moun partaje erreur yo fè surtout nan jeunesse yo ak lot kap vini pou yo kapab evite tonbe nan vye situation, but pawòl Nancy yo nan interview sa plus sanble ak moun kap preche lòt moun men kisa pou yo fè si bagay yo difisil au lieu pou bay yo bon exemple pou yo pa tonbe nan aktivite sal sa yo, quelque soit jan bagay yo ta du nan lavi yo demain...
Pawol sa yo pa gen bon exemple a suivre dutout, au contraire yo fè li parèt lèd anpil.

-Backup kapab jujé yon interview konsa (moun que Nancy prezante public la li ye a) kapab bay djaz la yon mauvaise image.

Let’s get our head on our shoulders, at least for once… “Nap viv nan yon monde depourvu de bon sens et de valeur morale”, jodi a yon moun kapab subi gro pression pran anpil panik si li kritike yon bagay ki pa bon. For example 20, 30 years ago it was ok to say “being gay/lesbian is a shame conduct”, but today it’s very dangerous to make such declaration, yon moun ka nan gro cho si li di bagay sa yo pa bon en public…

Verite yo fok nou di yo, malheureusement anpil moun peur pou yo pa trété yo de: “pa eklere, ou pa a la mode etc…” yo oblije dakò avec certaines choses or toleré yo, but deep down inside… yo pa alèz vré, unless yap mennen yon vi reziyé.
Pa chèché soulajé kè nou nan bay tèt nou manti, paske nou toujou regret sa pi devan!

“Nancy n’a que 20 ans”, donc sa explike “fougue jeunesse” li ki cause li betize anpil nan interview sa. Et de plus, Ticket Magazine en publiant yon interview pareil pa sanble yon magazine kap éde jeunnesse la, au contraire yo expozé/ankourajé jeunesse la ak maladi yo ka pran nan mode de situation sa yo. Pawòl sa yo pa benefique pou jeunesse la dutou!


PS:"Tout bagay mal se bagay mal", djaz la te ka dakò ak fason li te konn ap danse yo etc... epi yo chwazi suspend or revoke li pou pawòl sa yo. Situation sa yo rele "revers de la medaille". There's not a right/proper time to stop something bad".
Se ipokrizi sa lavi a sere pou tout moun (jeune, sipèsta etc...) kap agi yon fason tet chaje. A N'importe quel moment yo ka stop yo pou bagay yap fè ke lòt moun ka jujé pa bon... Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bambyvicekreyol wrote:
Men fi a rete li di tout moun se gold digger li ye!!! Mesye km yo si nou pa gen kob, kanpe loin Laughing Laughing Laughing En plus li tou di nou li te prostituer tet li, prostituer de luxe mais prosstituer kan menm!!!
I mean yeah some stuff was kinda super personal and if she had proper guidance she would have know not to say anything on an interview, but suspension ... really!?! Is it gonna change what is already printed?



Bamby,

i disagree my love!

It is all about Survival of the fittest.

let me ask you a Question, What future does the Haitian society offer these young women and men? You already know how the country functions it is all about where you come from and your LAst name. how many Great Haitian philosophers that are unemployed? you tell me!

Nancy didn't do anything wrong but just telling it how it is. beside that is women nature, whatever they cannot received in their home they will go somewhereelse and get it, from Affections, to Wealth, to Attentions somwhere or another they will seak for it somewhere esle. i don't blame them or condoned them but i understand. survival is every women natural instinct. Matter of fact i give nancy much more credit and respecting her even more because " li se yon fanm total Capital" who is out there to survice, maybe if the country would have offered her more future options i think she would have chosen another route.


It is nothing more or less from what Syromiel, Daphnee and all the other Female km members where practically saying the same thing but a little less indirect from nancy's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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moun la keep it real epi li nan ho pou sa.....kestion mwen ta renmen Pat mandé manager a se ke si nou té gin pudeur konsa sa nou pat chavirél sou tèt cha a leu li tap brassé bel legumes li Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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MESSAGE A NANCY

Nancy je ne te juge pas, et m pa gen droit pou'm juge'w non plus m sure que ou te gen de tres bonnes raisons qui fè ou te oblije pran chemin sa et mwen fiere de ou du fait que ou juge par ou meme que c'etait pas la meilleure chose a faire et ou deside chanje mode de vie ou.

But fok mwen diw sa, dans la vie toute vérite n'est pas bonne à dire, ou pa dwe janm ouvè'w à 100% bay ki ke se soit. Il faut avoir des reserves, se droit paw pou'w pale de vie ou mais certains details supoze rete secret pa'w, se sak fe yo di LE COEUR D'UNE FEMME EST UN OCEAN DE SECRET.

Menm siw gen 10'000 gasons nan vi'w epi chak gen role yo leu yo mande'w ou pa oblije avoue sa, ou pa dwe aucun moun detail sou vie prive'w, se granmoun ou ye...

Se te yon conseil à prendre ou à laisser mais m espere la servi'w à l'avenir...Se pa ke m trouve ou di anyen ki mal nan interview an men m juge ke ou te trop honette à Ticket magazine, m pa voye'w al bay manti men gen question yo poze'w ou supoze reponn avec plus de tact...Ou te gen dwa admet que se realité pays an de nos jours men ou pat oblije pran exemple lan sou ou. A l'avenir tu t'eviteras biens des soucis ma belle.

Antouka fok mwen diw tou que moun Back Up yo se roulib yap pran sou interview an pou yo mete'w deyo, ce n'est pas là le vrai probleme.

M souhaite'w bien du courage dans l'avenir, il est vrai que tu es une tres belle femme, mais pas konte sou sa selman, la beauté n'est pas eternelle, met connaissance nan tèt ou pour te faire respecter...

Pou leu yap pale de ou pou yo pa di : [i]Nancy se te yon bel ti fanm nan BackUp, bien kanpe ki konn gouye sou char. [/i]M ta renmen yo jwen lot qualité que sa yo leu yap pale de ou, par exemple : Nancy est une femme instruite qui sait s'exprimer en public.



Qui dit Mx, tres bien dit babyV..Dans un pays ou certain sujets sont encore des tabous elle devrait etre plus reservee. Mais si c'etait dans les grands pays etrangers ou a hollywood la pitit ou te ka layite kow pouw pale.
C dommage ke yo utilize on interview konsa pou yo sanksyone li. m plus we repons li yo kom on sorte de conseils a d'autres jeune filles chez nous qui font ces genres de choses la dans les coulisses malhereusement y'a personne pour leurs donner des conseils, sa raplem video Stanley (ou mechant) an. franchman li bon ke nancy di ke pa vreman gen anyen deyo an, sil te kontinye sou menm note lan poul di li te fel et li kontinye fel sa pa gen on merde ladanl lot moun met al fel la se tap on lot bagay..
le monde est mechant dans la vie toute verite n'est pas bonne a dire, ya des gens qui peuvent utiliser ton passe pour te faire du mal ou te juger. siw gen bon keu ou kap fe tout res vi'w ap dijerel san sa pa few anyen, si ti kew pa bon tou sa kont poul fe indinyasyon tuyew pou moun chita ap utilize pasew ke se pat fot ou se sikonstans la vi ki te metew la pou palew mal. en tout cas again im sorry they had to suspend you over that, continue being the strong girl that you are, and like babyvice said next time be more tactful and mindful on how you approach certain personal questions.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As expected, but there one thing in there Nancy talked about being in relationships with a married man, maybe someone can correct me, maybe that is the reason then again sounds like a BS excuse other then that the article is decent.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to keep it real, i understand why she got suspended, i don't agree with it but i understand it. she reveals some very personal stuff here that shouldn't have been reveals because of her status as a star, a sex symbol
whether we like it or not there are many people that after reading that interview facon yo gade nancy pral changer, they gonna look at her differently, that good girl image is gone and thats why i understand the suspension.
the other thing is that this is the reality of our society, its the cold hard truth
plain and simple et nou toute konin kijan haitien gin problem ak la verite
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