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KOMPA! MAGAZINE The site for Haitian Music News as it happens, debates & more.
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jeancelestin
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 12591 Location: BOSTON - EN LAS TODAS PARTES |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:44 am Post subject: MARTELLY TROUVERA 8.5 MILLIONS DE DOLLARS POUR SON PROGRAMME |
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APPEL AYITI PWAL PI CHER WI LA
Haïti / éducation
Martelly trouvera 8.5 millions de dollars pour financer son programme d’éducation gratuite, SELON LE MATIN
Le président élu, Michel Joseph Martely , fraichement revenu des Etats-Unis, a donné une conférence de presse ce mardi matin à Port-au-Prince. Le président a annoncé avoir déjà indexé les sources de financement de son programme d’éducation gratuite pour tous les enfants d’Haïti. M. Martely mise beaucoup sur la diaspora haïtienne qui, à travers ses appels vers Haïti et ses transferts d’argent, pourra faire entrer dans le trésor public, les fonds nécessaires à la concrétisation de sa promesse électorale.
2011-04-26 18:32:43
Le président élu, Michel Joseph Martely , fraichement revenu des Etats-Unis, a donné une conférence de presse ce mardi matin à Port-au-Prince. Le président a annoncé avoir déjà indexé les sources de financement de son programme d’éducation gratuite pour tous les enfants d’Haïti. M. Martely mise beaucoup sur la diaspora haïtienne qui, à travers ses appels vers Haïti et ses transferts d’argent, pourra faire entrer dans le trésor public, les fonds nécessaires à la concrétisation de sa promesse électorale.
A partir du 1er juin, 5 centimes seront prélevées sur chaque appel international, ce qui, selon les prévisions, pourra donner en moyenne 3.5 millions de dollars au trésor public, selon les explications du président élu qui dit avoir déjà eu l’approbation des trois compagnies de téléphonie mobile opérant en Haïti. Dans le marché des transferts d’argent, Martelly espère trouver pas moins que 5 millions de dollar tous les mois, en réclamant un dollar (1 $ us) sur chaque transfert en direction d’Haïti. Le 56e Président haïtien, promet en revanche, d’offrir plus d’opportunités aux haïtiens vivant à l’étranger, notamment en leur permettant d’investir plus facilement dans le pays. EL/LM |
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Neg2byen
Joined: 04 May 2010 Posts: 2049 Location: Long Island NY |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Pa move ide menm non... So far so good. As long as they do what they say they will do with the money, I'm all for it. After all it's only a dollar.
Great plan. _________________ "En ce moment historique de notre nation, notre mere haiti cherie doit retrouver sa dignite et sa fierte de peuple. Non a l'imoralite." Mirlande Manigat |
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Sanrick
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 12483 Location: Everett-MA |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Neg2byen wrote: |
Pa move ide menm non... So far so good. As long as they do what they say they will do with the money, I'm all for it. After all it's only a dollar.
Great plan. |
That's it wi... So far mwen we president mwen an ap fe anpil points. Make sure ou gen control tout bagay fre'm.
I like it! _________________ _______________________________________
“Cultural change is hard, but cultures do change after major traumas.” Samuel P. Huntington
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jeancelestin
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 12591 Location: BOSTON - EN LAS TODAS PARTES |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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BRO, OU DOLA POU TOUT LAJEAN KAP RANTRE AYITI, SE GWO KOB WI, FREM
BON M SWETE YO FE SA YO FE AK LAJEAN AN
IDEE A AP MOVE EN LI MENM
BUT, MWEN PANSE OU PAKA VIN PREZIDAN POU VIN BASE FE RECETTES SOU DIASPORA
OU SIPOZE CHERCHE RESOURCES PEYI A, D'ABORD
OU PAKA MIZE SOU DIASPORA
TOUT PEYI GEN DIASPORA, PA BLYE SA
REFORME FISCAL LA DWE KOMANCE AN AYITI, D'ABORD
APRE SA MWEN PA GEN PWOBLEM
TE GIN VWAM DEJA WI |
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Sanrick
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 12483 Location: Everett-MA |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Celestin,
Mwen pense ke se yon bel proposition et se pral up to lot neg yo pou negocye. It does not have to be $1, even $0.50 will do wonder as long as they use it for its purpose. _________________ _______________________________________
“Cultural change is hard, but cultures do change after major traumas.” Samuel P. Huntington
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NEGKREYOL
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 2284 Location: Tampa, Florida |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: |
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This is a great way for us, DIASPORA, to participate nan developman peyi a.
As long as Lajan sa a fè sa'l supoze fè a mwen pa tap mind paying menm $2.00 extra. _________________ Knowledge Will Forever Govern Ignorance |
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Haitianone
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 16180 Location: BOSTON,MA |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Celestin, I wrote about this a week ago and I called it a tax but after writing it was notified to me that the idea is premised on for $1,000 US sent to Haiti the money transfer companies pay $1. Well it is really not a bad deal at all and can generate several millions for school. The cell phone tax was agreed upon long before Micky won. There are other sources of money. Plus, right now Pres. Clinton is proposing free school lunches so that makes easier for parents to send their kids to school and have food to eat.
Sorry to say Preval and other folks in Haiti would have never get this oppurtunity _________________ Statehood or Bust |
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Rj production
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 4984 Location: Connecticut |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:28 am Post subject: |
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so far so good president Micky as long that money is use for something good i'm all for it.
haiti pou ayisyan an fel ansanm _________________ jou revolisyon konsyans sa yap resi we kisa nou ye |
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Nounoune
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 601 Location: florida |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:36 am Post subject: I totally disagree |
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I totally disagree...
Throughout his campaign, the President Elect said that the funds needed for education would be obtained through borlett or the lottery? What happened to taxing them and those institutions?
Why is all of the sudden the diaspora now the main source for additional funding for schools? First off the idea to tax dollars through wire transfer will only be detrimental to the people on the receiving end of these transfers. As I can assure you the people sending these transfers will not be wiiling to pay more to send their money to Haiti. They will take the excess of charges out from the money they are sending. Or just use alternative means to send money.
They will most likely use transfers for emergency needs as opposed to regularily, and will return to "voye lajan par okasyon". This makesthe difference sometimes between eating,and paying bills on time, and even tuition for some.
The idea is that the remittance industries set their prices and advertise their rates based on the amount of remittances that we send regularily. If these companies are taxed they will be forced to increase their prices to us the consumer.... As I can assure you, although they may feel the tax is for a good cause ,... they are in the business for profits, not for philanthropy.
In addition the tax on telephone companies is exhorbitanat. DGI reported last year that the most heavly taxed institution in Haiti last year was in fact Digicel. Years prior Digicel was very serious that they refuse to be taxed further, especially after the company has played major roles in philanthropy,cultural, and sports activities in the country. It was unfair that they were being so heavily taxed. We even debated I think of this here on KM. I seriously doubt that Digicel would agree to pay an additional 5 cent tax PER MINUTE to the government, even if it is for education.
They like all the carriers should this bill pass (as it may not even be voted by the house) will pass the buck on the consumer, and we will be paying higher to call Haiti. This would be very unfortunate as we pay wayyyyy more to call home already, we do pay more than people in South America, China, Brazil, certain countries in Africa, and also Europe.
The president Elect has good intentions however I do not think he wants to create new problems, by trying to solve existing problems.
I truly hope, the president elect, surrounds himself with credible advisors, who have an idea as to economics, and fiscal policy. As opposed to surrounding himself with people that will just flatter him even when he is wrong.
The reality is that there are several people listening to these such proposals and are scrathing their heads. I think it would also be better if he appoints a spokesperson, that way he will be less criticized for these gaffe's.
Nounoune |
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Ekzaamp
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Montreal |
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: I totally disagree |
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Nounoune wrote: |
I totally disagree...
Throughout his campaign, the President Elect said that the funds needed for education would be obtained through borlett or the lottery? What happened to taxing them and those institutions?
Why is all of the sudden the diaspora now the main source for additional funding for schools? First off the idea to tax dollars through wire transfer will only be detrimental to the people on the receiving end of these transfers. As I can assure you the people sending these transfers will not be wiiling to pay more to send their money to Haiti. They will take the excess of charges out from the money they are sending. Or just use alternative means to send money.
They will most likely use transfers for emergency needs as opposed to regularily, and will return to "voye lajan par okasyon". This makesthe difference sometimes between eating,and paying bills on time, and even tuition for some.
The idea is that the remittance industries set their prices and advertise their rates based on the amount of remittances that we send regularily. If these companies are taxed they will be forced to increase their prices to us the consumer.... As I can assure you, although they may feel the tax is for a good cause ,... they are in the business for profits, not for philanthropy.
In addition the tax on telephone companies is exhorbitanat. DGI reported last year that the most heavly taxed institution in Haiti last year was in fact Digicel. Years prior Digicel was very serious that they refuse to be taxed further, especially after the company has played major roles in philanthropy,cultural, and sports activities in the country. It was unfair that they were being so heavily taxed. We even debated I think of this here on KM. I seriously doubt that Digicel would agree to pay an additional 5 cent tax PER MINUTE to the government, even if it is for education.
They like all the carriers should this bill pass (as it may not even be voted by the house) will pass the buck on the consumer, and we will be paying higher to call Haiti. This would be very unfortunate as we pay wayyyyy more to call home already, we do pay more than people in South America, China, Brazil, certain countries in Africa, and also Europe.
The president Elect has good intentions however I do not think he wants to create new problems, by trying to solve existing problems.
I truly hope, the president elect, surrounds himself with credible advisors, who have an idea as to economics, and fiscal policy. As opposed to surrounding himself with people that will just flatter him even when he is wrong.
The reality is that there are several people listening to these such proposals and are scrathing their heads. I think it would also be better if he appoints a spokesperson, that way he will be less criticized for these gaffe's.
Nounoune |
Congratulations Nounoune for your reply.
Who is sending money to Haiti? I can tell you it's the low income people who send the money to their families and friends.
We are paying too much fees for sending our money to Haiti " sa se yon peze souse, kote'w pase yap fan'n ou" instead of bringing new strategy to make us send more money to Haiti you are telling me that you will ask about 1$ per transfer and IT'S 100% SURE that the transfer agencies will pass it to the customers. Why don't Michel propose that BNC will give a flat rate for our people sending money to Haiti and as incencitive for each 1$ we give for the haiti education fund it will lower our transfer fees. Now I'm pretty sure that WU, CAM, Unitransfer etc. will do the same, if not they will make less money.
Each $ we send to Haiti is after tax $ wich mean that we need to work for more than 1$ to be able to send 1$. When the gas price, food, rental etc goes up it's reflected on our pocket immediately, so we have less money to send to Haiti and you are telling me that we are the one who gonna pay the price of "non realistic election program".
I'm in Canada and it cost 20cts per minute to call someone in Haiti which is a cell phone most of the time. If the telecomunication companies charge 5Cts more per minute it's going to be an increase of 25%. While some other people in other countries are paying less than 10Cts per minute you are telling me to pay 25Cts.
W/O doing anything you are charging the "Diaspora" because they are the ones responsible for the actual problem of Haiti. This is a local Haitian mentality that if you are a Diaspora you have money and you need to send money to Haiti.
Do you know guys if Haiti gov can create Job, school, security and stability for private investments that we are going to send less transfer to Haiti.
E Pa m
oun pran mezanmi _________________ What goes around comes around |
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