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Le sénateur Jean Charles accuse, Le président Martelly répond

Après un bras de fer raté avec son collègue Youry Latortue, le sénateur Moïse Jean Charles (Inite) part en guerre contre le président de la république Michel Martelly. Selon lui, l’incendie ayant récemment ravagé un camp de réfugiés à Port-au-Prince, rentre dans le cadre d’une entente entre le président et certains maires en vue de déloger, rapidement et par la force, les sans-abris issus du séisme du 12 janvier 2010.


26/05/2011

Après un bras de fer raté avec son collègue Youry Latortue, le sénateur Moïse Jean Charles (Inite) part en guerre contre le président de la république Michel Martelly. Selon lui, l’incendie ayant récemment ravagé un camp de réfugiés à Port-au-Prince, rentre dans le cadre d’une entente entre le président et certains maires en vue de déloger, rapidement et par la force, les sans-abris issus du séisme du 12 janvier 2010.

« Je suis un sénateur. Je sais ce que je dis. Le président Martelly a rencontré plusieurs maires pour planifier le déguerpissement des sinistrés, de gré ou de force. Et dans certains camps, vous voyez déjà que leurs hommes de main ont carrément mis le feu », a juré le sénateur. Il dit détenir « des preuves tangibles » pouvant appuyer ses allégations.

Parallèlement, le président Martelly rejette les accusations du sénateur Jean Charles qui selon lui serait entrain de régler un compte personnel. A son avis, le sénateur cherche à ternir son image après s’être vainement rendu à son bureau pour le rencontrer. « J’étais trop occupé pour le recevoir », a laissé entendre le premier mandataire de la nation qui invite le sénateur à revenir à son bureau au lieu de chercher à se venger par des accusations mensongères.

Cette mésentente entre un sénateur de Inite et le président Martelly pourrait fragiliser encore plus les relations entre l’exécutif et le parlement. La plateforme Inite détient la majorité dans les deux chambres du pouvoir législatif. Le sénateur Jean-Charles se montre déjà très réticent quant à la ratification du Premier ministre désigné par Michel Martelly, Daniel Gérard

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OU SEL BAGAY MAP DI, FOK MICKY DEGAJE LI POU LI BA NEG YO POST YO BEZWEN PASKE LI PA GEN PESON ANBA LA CHANM LAN
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[Haitianone]

Celestin brother, here is where I won't be dissing Micky my president here. Latortue is not someone that will not bring any legitimacy to getting funds and this buddy as well. Micky promised to provide a clean cabinet and putting these fellows in there only means a dirty cabinet is in place. Plus, INITE actions in the last election where they used fraud and illegal tactics well how will it look if you put them cabinet positions.

I hope people understand not everyone in INITE are bad but their party is bad so sorry change your affiliation or keep it moving. Latortue and his buddy, look they don't carry a lot respect either because don't forget Youri was called Mr. 30% for a reason.
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Haitianone wrote:

Celestin brother, here is where I won't be dissing Micky my president here. Latortue is not someone that will not bring any legitimacy to getting funds and this buddy as well. Micky promised to provide a clean cabinet and putting these fellows in there only means a dirty cabinet is in place. Plus, INITE actions in the last election where they used fraud and illegal tactics well how will it look if you put them cabinet positions. I hope people understand not everyone in INITE are bad but their party is bad so sorry change your affiliation or keep it moving. Latortue and his buddy, look they don't carry a lot respect either because don't forget Youri was called Mr. 30% for a reason.

H1,
In reality a sitting senator should never accused a President of arson; besides they suppose to have an honey moon period for new administration.But in Haiti anyone get accused without proof. Micky shoud ask his Pm nominee to tone down his rethoric. When you only have 3 members in the House; you are limited. As far as Latortue; this guy is a crook.
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sansan29 wrote:

Haitianone wrote: Celestin brother, here is where I won't be dissing Micky my president here. Latortue is not someone that will not bring any legitimacy to getting funds and this buddy as well. Micky promised to provide a clean cabinet and putting these fellows in there only means a dirty cabinet is in place. Plus, INITE actions in the last election where they used fraud and illegal tactics well how will it look if you put them cabinet positions. I hope people understand not everyone in INITE are bad but their party is bad so sorry change your affiliation or keep it moving. Latortue and his buddy, look they don't carry a lot respect either because don't forget Youri was called Mr. 30% for a reason. H1, In reality a sitting senator should never accused a President of arson; besides they suppose to have an honey moon period for new administration.But in Haiti anyone get accused without proof. Micky shoud ask his Pm nominee to tone down his rethoric. When you only have 3 members in the House; you are limited. As far as Latortue; this guy is a crook.

WELL, h1, if that is the case,nou fek chaje ak pwoblem
There is no win in politics. there are compromises.
Therefore, Micky needs to move the ball forward by accepting the propositions of the camp
h1, kestion wap pale de neg pa clean lan, sa se pou listwa
MIcky knew that he did not have any back up in the chambers, therefore he needs to accept some of the propositions if he wants to do what he has promised to do
Also, nou neg poko premie ministre lap pale konsa
MWEN DI NOU SA: PREVAL PASE 18 MWA SAN PREMIE MINISTRE NAN PREMIE MANDA LI AN PASKE CHAK NEG LI BAY NEG YO REJETE LI

ps. PA BLYE SE AYIT NOU YE KOTE NEG VREMAN PA CARE
THEREFORE SE PREZIDAN SI LI VREMAN VLE MOVE BAGAY FORWARD, LI OBLIJE ASEPTE KEK BAGAY NEG YO MANDE
NAN POLITIK, SE KONSA BAGAY YO YE. SE BANM MAP BA OU

[Haitianone]

sansan29 wrote:

Haitianone wrote: Celestin brother, here is where I won't be dissing Micky my president here. Latortue is not someone that will not bring any legitimacy to getting funds and this buddy as well. Micky promised to provide a clean cabinet and putting these fellows in there only means a dirty cabinet is in place. Plus, INITE actions in the last election where they used fraud and illegal tactics well how will it look if you put them cabinet positions. I hope people understand not everyone in INITE are bad but their party is bad so sorry change your affiliation or keep it moving. Latortue and his buddy, look they don't carry a lot respect either because don't forget Youri was called Mr. 30% for a reason. H1, In reality a sitting senator should never accused a President of arson; besides they suppose to have an honey moon period for new administration.But in Haiti anyone get accused without proof. Micky shoud ask his Pm nominee to tone down his rethoric. When you only have 3 members in the House; you are limited. As far as Latortue; this guy is a crook.

sansan

I agree this senator is very disrespectful and lack the protocol and how micky handle that idiot was appropriate. For me, the PM designate has made a couple of stupid comments all week long and quite honestly if I was the President it is time to move on designate a new person. Rouzier is in trouble and I always felt BeleRive was the right move from the get go but it was suggested in several meeting with the President to take this guy for several important reasons. But that has come to fluation and if Micky does not come to a compromise it will be a disaster.

Look, Rouzier is highly qualified to take the job but there are ways to handle the situation and it is very tense.

But giving cabinet jobs to INITE thugs is not a good look. INITE must understand they don't have a clean image and thus putting them into power goes counter the image Haiti needs to justify getting funds to rebuild. Latortue is a crook who I am surprised is still around for the many shady dealings he his done in his career and he is not called Mr. 30% for no reason.

Nap suiv
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[Haitianone]

jeancelestin wrote:

sansan29 wrote: Haitianone wrote: Celestin brother, here is where I won't be dissing Micky my president here. Latortue is not someone that will not bring any legitimacy to getting funds and this buddy as well. Micky promised to provide a clean cabinet and putting these fellows in there only means a dirty cabinet is in place. Plus, INITE actions in the last election where they used fraud and illegal tactics well how will it look if you put them cabinet positions. I hope people understand not everyone in INITE are bad but their party is bad so sorry change your affiliation or keep it moving. Latortue and his buddy, look they don't carry a lot respect either because don't forget Youri was called Mr. 30% for a reason. H1, In reality a sitting senator should never accused a President of arson; besides they suppose to have an honey moon period for new administration.But in Haiti anyone get accused without proof. Micky shoud ask his Pm nominee to tone down his rethoric. When you only have 3 members in the House; you are limited. As far as Latortue; this guy is a crook. WELL, h1, if that is the case,nou fek chaje ak pwoblem There is no win in politics. there are compromises. Therefore, Micky needs to move the ball forward by accepting the propositions of the camp h1, kestion wap pale de neg pa clean lan, sa se pou listwa MIcky knew that he did not have any back up in the chambers, therefore he needs to accept some of the propositions if he wants to do what he has promised to do Also, nou neg poko premie ministre lap pale konsa MWEN DI NOU SA: PREVAL PASE 18 MWA SAN PREMIE MINISTRE NAN PREMIE MANDA LI AN PASKE CHAK NEG LI BAY NEG YO REJETE LI ps. PA BLYE SE AYIT NOU YE KOTE NEG VREMAN PA CARE THEREFORE SE PREZIDAN SI LI VREMAN VLE MOVE BAGAY FORWARD, LI OBLIJE ASEPTE KEK BAGAY NEG YO MANDE NAN POLITIK, SE KONSA BAGAY YO YE. SE BANM MAP BA OU

Celestin

Look you compromise but you don't give in too whatever they give you. First, the President has to show the to international community a cabinet comprised of members of clean stature so they can trust that things will get done. A cabinet position filled with INITE thugs is not a good look because people already see what they do and they don't carry any legitimacy. INITE should know that as well, if they intend to help the people they must also step aside because of their image of cheating and thuggery, and let the president sell a cabinet of clean and honorable. Bagay istwa sa is why INITE cannot be in high cabinet positions, if they did not cheat then you are right but heck they did not give Preval a dime WHY? His party and his government were CROOKS, and that istwa cannot be repeated.

You don't bargain the country away so a couple thugs can keep stealing. Given the actions of this senator they don't even have the respect of protocol towards a sitting president. This is the makats you want in power.

I will say though, Micky is going to need an intermediary to consult with INITE and I think he should revisit his decision on BelleRive because he is one of the good ones and the international community do like working with him.
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[Nounoune]

What offends me is the arrongance of these Senators, who blatanly want to assure their "piece of the pie" The thing Martelly will be faced with most is the level at to which extent these people will want to rule and have power even in this new government, now is he ready and able to play poker or get played??

Also I read an article today that I found to be quite perplexing:

Quote:

The Senatorial commission "Economy and Finance" has convened for tomorrow, Wednesday, June 1, Ronald Baudin, Minister of Economy and Finance and Charles Castel, the Governor of the Bank of the Republic of Haiti (BRH), to answer questions about the new taxes on remittances [U.S. $ 1.50 per transfer incoming or outgoing] and the incoming international calls [5 cents per minute], which should enter into force respectively on June 1 and 15, 2011. In the view of Senator Pierre Francky Exius, the Governor of the Bank would be one of the primarily responsible of this projectn stressing that the imposition of any new tax, should be the subject of a law passed by the Parliament. However, the BRH, has carefully avoided to talk of tax in its circular # 98 dated May 20, 2011, justifying this levy of USD$1.50 as a "Cost of testing, certification, operation and inspection", which in terms of obligation of the law makes all the difference... A workaround that might nevertheless be not appreciated by the Senatorial commission...

Not only is Martelly faced with having to give keep positions to members of the Senate...he is also now being courted and propositioned by members and directors of the former government wishing to assure their place in his government is kept in place as well. I am willing to bet that these guys promised the President that they can find of a way to get this tax on remittance passed without having it go in front of the senate to be ratified and all of this most likely to show him that they are all so eager and willing to work in his favor, even when the premise behind the $1.50 fee is all wrong!!!

I don't even see any reference to education anymore! I see this new levy as explained as a "Cost of testing, certification, operation and inspection" I suggest President Martelly pick and chose wisely, or else tomorrow these same people will land him a bonafide seat in court on corruption charges.

Why go about it the wrong way, the levy or tax was for a righteous purpose EDUCATION, why pass it off as something it is not, just to get it to pass???

In my opinion, Rouzier is way above playing spades with these individuals...What an unfortuante price to pay for power

[Haitianone]

Nounoune wrote:

What offends me is the arrongance of these Senators, who blatanly want to assure their "piece of the pie" The thing Martelly will be faced with most is the level at to which extent these people will want to rule and have power even in this new government, now is he ready and able to play poker or get played?? Also I read an article today that I found to be quite perplexing: Quote: The Senatorial commission "Economy and Finance" has convened for tomorrow, Wednesday, June 1, Ronald Baudin, Minister of Economy and Finance and Charles Castel, the Governor of the Bank of the Republic of Haiti (BRH), to answer questions about the new taxes on remittances [U.S. $ 1.50 per transfer incoming or outgoing] and the incoming international calls [5 cents per minute], which should enter into force respectively on June 1 and 15, 2011. In the view of Senator Pierre Francky Exius, the Governor of the Bank would be one of the primarily responsible of this projectn stressing that the imposition of any new tax, should be the subject of a law passed by the Parliament. However, the BRH, has carefully avoided to talk of tax in its circular # 98 dated May 20, 2011, justifying this levy of USD$1.50 as a "Cost of testing, certification, operation and inspection", which in terms of obligation of the law makes all the difference... A workaround that might nevertheless be not appreciated by the Senatorial commission... Not only is Martelly faced with having to give keep positions to members of the Senate...he is also now being courted and propositioned by members and directors of the former government wishing to assure their place in his government is kept in place as well. I am willing to bet that these guys promised the President that they can find of a way to get this tax on remittance passed without having it go in front of the senate to be ratified and all of this most likely to show him that they are all so eager and willing to work in his favor, even when the premise behind the $1.50 fee is all wrong!!! I don't even see any reference to education anymore! I see this new levy as explained as a "Cost of testing, certification, operation and inspection" I suggest President Martelly pick and chose wisely, or else tomorrow these same people will land him a bonafide seat in court on corruption charges. Why go about it the wrong way, the levy or tax was for a righteous purpose EDUCATION, why pass it off as something it is not, just to get it to pass??? In my opinion, Rouzier is way above playing spades with these individuals...What an unfortuante price to pay for power

Nounoune

I agree with you analysis here regarding the levy they put out because it is officially not a tax because for it to be a tax it needs to be ratified. I hate to say this though there is no accountability from what I know and see for it to be applied to education which I suspect it won't unless the President shows some direct documentation or accounting that it will be.

But personally that could be fixed once a PM gets in power and the legislature quickly ratifies the levy except to one entity all the phone companies are willing to comply.

Now, why in the hell did Micky advisors proposed this ruling they could have stated as a education fund or levy for purposes of education without it ever having to be put out like that. But you are right it looks bad but that could be ratified.

Now another point, it seems Preval has ordered all members of INITE to not join the government, but within the ranks of INITE members are requesting in private ministerial positions, are members breaking ranks with INITE?

Nap suiv, that is big because if the President can create a new party within INITE he may still end up with a majority. Nap suiv toujou the word from my sources it is being worked out.

Sorry for Preval, Haitian power is premised on if you are in power not ,if you are not then siyonara.

If Micky pulls this out of the bag, and creates a majority within INITE that is historic. I do believe it will be tough to do with Rouzier at the helm though because I hear from the parliament some certain very important members consider him to be abrasive. Given over the weekend there were no new endorsements from powerful members it seems Rouzier could be in truoble.
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