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KOMPA! MAGAZINE The site for Haitian Music News as it happens, debates & more.
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kompamagazine Site Admin
Joined: 31 Dec 1969 Posts: 43367 Location: HMI World |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject: SHEDLEY ABRAHAM SAYS "SON LA RI..... DE WHAT?".... |
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SHEDLEY "I always hear people talking about SON LA RI or that TEL SON GIN SON LA RI A. I will say this...SON LA RI DE WHAT? There is NO SON LA RI FORMULA. You as a band or musician is the one that HAS TO MAKE LA RI A FOLLOW YOU. SE OU KI POU DICTE SA LA RI A VLE. Depi ou ba li'l...li bon...LAP PRAN'L."
SHEDLEY continues "Let me give you a couple of examples. The MIZIK MIZIK song "LEU NAP FE LANMOU". Keke has an excellent GUITAR SOLO on that song. Everybody knows or recites these notes by heart when he plays them...but if you listen to it...the guitar has a JAZZ feel to it. A JAZZY feel to it. PA GIN SON LA RI GUITAR on that track. Another example is the classic CARIBBEAN SEXTET song "LA PESON'N". That DOES NOT HAVE A son la ri SOUND....MIN TOUT LA RI A KON'N MIZIK SA from MACHAN'N NAN MACHE to people who live up in the high places in Haiti. Another song is "TI BATO" by New York All Stars. PA GIN ANYIN NAN MIZIK LA ki gin formul ke moun yo rele SON LA RI A...but the song is extremely popular all over the map of Haitian society. PA GIN OKUN FORMUL SON LA RI. You as a musician or band have to make the public go with what YOU offer them. If it's good and has appeal potential for all....LAP PASSE."
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T-jos
Joined: 28 Nov 2009 Posts: 48 Location: Santiago, DR |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Point finale.
-- Fin de document -- _________________ Live and Enjoy #LikeAMoonFoo |
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LouisJeanBeauge
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 3603 Location: Mombin Crochu, Haiti |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Epi legliz la di....AMENNNNNN!!! _________________ "Mesye bliye chèz la, al nan sena a, oubyen al fè sinema" Beethova Obas. |
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BoBoRi
Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Posts: 2467 Location: CHEZ BA |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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PEDESHED Son laria is what's gonna keep you active in the HMI. All these examples are great but are also proving my point. Where are all these bands in the HMI now???? We call these bands "REFERENCES/COLLECTIONS AYA _________________ KISA OU BAY TIMOUN DEZOD NAN PLA MEN?
KLASS GRO TONTON JAZZ
PIPO GRO TONTON CHANTEUR
RICHIE SUPERSTAR MAKER PI RED |
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LouisJeanBeauge
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 3603 Location: Mombin Crochu, Haiti |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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BoBoRi wrote: |
PEDESHED Son laria is what's gonna keep you active in the HMI. All these examples are great but are also proving my point. Where are all these bands in the HMI now???? We call these bands "REFERENCES/COLLECTIONS AYA |
While there is some truth to what you say, but I understand where Shedly is coming from and agree with him. The "son lari" disease that has plague the HMI for the past decade is the reason the industry is in the state where it right now. This is why everyone is trying to be Zenglen, NuLook and CaRiMi. The upcoming bands are not going out of their comfort zone to come up with something original. The son lari, might give you a couple gigs here and there, but as musicians and artists are the ones to dictate what's hot and what's out. Not the other way around. The "La Ri" should not decide what you as a musician, artist and most of all creator of art should play. It's mediocre, lazy and downright stupid. The ones who chose to be trailblazers and go the unbeaten paths have more opportunities to enjoy lasting success. There was not a CaRiMi before CaRiMi. Even when I don't like their bubble gum flavor, you must respect those 3 guys who decided that they are the best to express themselves for themselves and not let the LARI dictate their sound. Kudos to Zenglen for deciding their own future and shaping their own musical identities. Same goes for NuLook. Kudos to DoLa as well. There are others, but they are very few. _________________ "Mesye bliye chèz la, al nan sena a, oubyen al fè sinema" Beethova Obas. |
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BoBoRi
Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Posts: 2467 Location: CHEZ BA |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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LouisJeanBeauge wrote: |
BoBoRi wrote: |
PEDESHED Son laria is what's gonna keep you active in the HMI. All these examples are great but are also proving my point. Where are all these bands in the HMI now???? We call these bands "REFERENCES/COLLECTIONS AYA |
While there is some truth to what you say, but I understand where Shedly is coming from and agree with him. The "son lari" disease that has plague the HMI for the past decade is the reason the industry is in the state where it right now. This is why everyone is trying to be Zenglen, NuLook and CaRiMi. The upcoming bands are not going out of their comfort zone to come up with something original. The son lari, might give you a couple gigs here and there, but as musicians and artists are the ones to dictate what's hot and what's out. Not the other way around. The "La Ri" should not decide what you as a musician, artist and most of all creator of art should play. It's mediocre, lazy and downright stupid. The ones who chose to be trailblazers and go the unbeaten paths have more opportunities to enjoy lasting success. There was not a CaRiMi before CaRiMi. Even when I don't like their bubble gum flavor, you must respect those 3 guys who decided that they are the best to express themselves for themselves and not let the LARI dictate their sound. Kudos to Zenglen for deciding their own future and shaping their own musical identities. Same goes for NuLook. Kudos to DoLa as well. There are others, but they are very few. |
I beg to differ... The son lari is what keeps the most popular bands in business for decades, and NYAL,MM,CST as just REFERENCES. There was not a Carimi before Carimi, but there was a Skandal, Zin, Lakol... There was not a Nu-Look before Nu-Look but there was a System Band, Skah-sha, DP xpress, Freres DeJean etc... It's just a continuing pattern of the same Kompa with some slightly twists. Carimi, Nu-Look and Zenglen are NO reference to ROOKIES in the HMI because they're still playing the Nemour/Sico Kompa.
T-Vice, Carimi, Kreyol la, Nu-look, Djakout, Zenglen are still in business decade after decades because beside their musicianships and maturities they add the son lari twist to their products, that's how they are FINANCIALLY refered as successful people. _________________ KISA OU BAY TIMOUN DEZOD NAN PLA MEN?
KLASS GRO TONTON JAZZ
PIPO GRO TONTON CHANTEUR
RICHIE SUPERSTAR MAKER PI RED |
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XXplosive
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 12886 Location: Boston, MA |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Sheldy is right. Son lari a pa just vle di kampe mizik la epi lage yon kout guita or keyboard. Depi pep la pran feeling l'ap passe. Yon mizik tankou Se Pa Pou Dat, pa gen son lari a. Gen lot example men problem mwen se kisa ki definition son lari a? Eske se oblije yon groove guita or keyboard. Gen ampil mizik ki hit ki pa mete focus la sou groove guita ak keyboard selman. _________________ YA RAYI'W TANDE TI GASON(RICKY) |
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BoBoRi
Joined: 23 Oct 2011 Posts: 2467 Location: CHEZ BA |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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XXplosive wrote: |
Sheldy is right. Son lari a pa just vle di kampe mizik la epi lage yon kout guita or keyboard. Depi pep la pran feeling l'ap passe. Yon mizik tankou Se Pa Pou Dat, pa gen son lari a. Gen lot example men problem mwen se kisa ki definition son lari a? Eske se oblije yon groove guita or keyboard. Gen ampil mizik ki hit ki pa mete focus la sou groove guita ak keyboard selman. |
Se pa pou dat pa gen son lari ladan??? That's our BIGGEST issue in this HMI... Most people (that includes fans, producers and some well known musicians) dont know the definition of Music; Commercial sounds; lucrative productions; Son lari etc... Why do you guys think that R&B generates way way way more $$$$money$$$$ than JAZZ and BLUES combined??? Yet it requires more skills to play Jazz and Blues than R&B?
Our biggest problem in this business is that most musicians, producers, promoters, and fans have very little knowledge when it comes to music. _________________ KISA OU BAY TIMOUN DEZOD NAN PLA MEN?
KLASS GRO TONTON JAZZ
PIPO GRO TONTON CHANTEUR
RICHIE SUPERSTAR MAKER PI RED |
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Jay Brooklyn
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 21884 Location: Brooklyn, USA |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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M'akepte opinion Shedley ya men mwen ta renmen konnen ki ligne lap swiv e ki jazz ou byen ki atis ki plus influence mizik misye yo?
Pe Shed, pa gen wout pa bwa non..map tann repons ou.. |
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XXplosive
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 12886 Location: Boston, MA |
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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BoBoRi wrote: |
XXplosive wrote: |
Sheldy is right. Son lari a pa just vle di kampe mizik la epi lage yon kout guita or keyboard. Depi pep la pran feeling l'ap passe. Yon mizik tankou Se Pa Pou Dat, pa gen son lari a. Gen lot example men problem mwen se kisa ki definition son lari a? Eske se oblije yon groove guita or keyboard. Gen ampil mizik ki hit ki pa mete focus la sou groove guita ak keyboard selman. |
Se pa pou dat pa gen son lari ladan??? That's our BIGGEST issue in this HMI... Most people (that includes fans, producers and some well known musicians) dont know the definition of Music; Commercial sounds; lucrative productions; Son lari etc... Why do you guys think that R&B generates way way way more $$$$money$$$$ than JAZZ and BLUES combined??? Yet it requires more skills to play Jazz and Blues than R&B?
Our biggest problem in this business is that most musicians, producers, promoters, and fans have very little knowledge when it comes to music. |
Ou bay ampil pawol ampil sa ou di an pa gen rapport ak affai ke ou sezi paske mwen di Se Pa Pou Dat pa gen son lari. Jan ou pale an se comme si ou ta vle agree ak Shedley sou affai que yon mizik pa oblije gen yon kout guita or sa yo rele son lari a pou'l HIT menm jan ak Ti Bato. Se Pa Pou Dat gen yon feel twobadou ki se yon genre ke a l'epoque pat ko reprann popularite'l. Li gen yon simple bel solo keyboard, no guitar lari ala Laporte so mwen pa we poukisa ou sezi. Sak fe charme musci lan se instrumentation au complet. Bel melody, catchy hook epi troubadou feel lan ak bon lyrics. _________________ YA RAYI'W TANDE TI GASON(RICKY) |
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