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 PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:09 pm    Post subject: THE HMI IS IN PANIC MODE & HERE'S WHY SAYS...... Reply with quote Back to top









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JACQUES JOLICOEUR was for many many years, the right hand man of HMI producer/icon JOUBERT CHARLES. He was the manager at the very popular NOUVEL JENERASYON record store; and has been watching the HMI very closely from then until now. KM spoke to him today and he had some very interesting comments to say the least.

JOLICOEUR: "Pa gen sak ki rele hmi la ankor. Depi original records producers and promoters yo pa engage ankor.. the HMI went dead. Even parties...I believe the DJS are taking over."

*KOMPA MAGAZINE: why do you say DJS are taking over? YOU think they will become a problem for bands on the HMI party scene?
JOLICOEUR: "Of course they are. Look and you will find more people at their parties than at the bands'; and another thing, the bands and the promoters do not have nothing to offer the public. It's the plain truth..Patrick. Remember back then how it used to be with the original promoters? We used to have good combinations for the public. I mean better combinations, better promotions and of course better promoters, but now you have 6 promoters "deye manman" put together to throw a party and still can't throw something good.

Nowadays we have many well known bands holding their parties in every little place they can find, whether its in Brooklyn, Queens etc...and the albums.... my God , whatever happened to go harmony.. wanna know the truth? I am still listening to old zin, alan cave se pa pou dat, tvice medicament, old system jpp, viagra... and so on.. and not to forget carimi's first album. Look back in the days... people used to look forward to an upcoming album, because the bands used to have something to give them, and these albums used to sell like crazy, again, good promotions, and good music.

WE ARE THE CAUSE because of lack of promotions by the bands, their managers or their promoters, you find bands like tvice, carimi, kreyol la, and so on playing at labadee, brasserie kreyol, or buzz night club. Are you kidding me? Yet yo still paka bring 1000 people by themselves anymore. That's a shame."


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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

One thing for sure we are expect on identifying problems, we just never have a solution...
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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NathanIam wrote:
One thing for sure we are expect on identifying problems, we just never have a solution...


jwet pou ou, promoteur!
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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Jayb not necessarily bro, the HMI is simply going through a transition. We now have a new generation of Konpa lovers, and if we feed them the right ingredients they will accept it. I personally think the bands has to do a better job connecting with the fans. Like Jay-Z said; the internet is a jungle full of opportunity, the HMI just have to caught up with progress. The same promoters who used to do bals 5, 10 years ago are no longer doing so, and even if they do they just trying to make a little profit. Its not about exposing bands, or trying different things anymore. Everyone's trying to eat and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I just think the bands needs to be a little bit more flexible, start looking at the HMI long term not just the next bal. At the end it should be a win, win, the bands should help the promoters as the promoters helping the bands.

When these guys going overseas to do a big show they take the time to promote the event, because they want people to see that they are playing at big venues. But most of them failed to understand your monthly promoters are your biggest clients, you need them to survived why not help them. At the end of the day the bands has to come to term that we don't have ballers anymore in the business, now we have smarter investors. When a young student trying to put a bal together he or she is not looking for a shout out like back in the day, they are simply looking for a return on investment. And if that doesn't happen he or she will focus on something else which mean you just lost a client.

Bands like Tvice, Carimi, Harmonik, Kreyol, Klass, Zenglen, needs to communicate more with they clients. Its not about you pay or else anymore. Trust me putting a zouk party together is 10 times less than doing a bal so its pretty clear that the bands needs to start thinking of better ways to keep the clients. These guys needs to start looking at the HMI just like any big coporation.
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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NathanIam wrote:
Jayb not necessarily bro, the HMI is simply going through a transition. We now have a new generation of Konpa lover, and if we feed them the right ingredients they will accept it. I personally think the bands has to do a better job connecting with the fans. Like Jay-Z said; the internet is a jungle full of opportunity, the HMI just have to caught up with progress. The same promoters who used to do bals 5, 10 years ago are no longer doing so, and even if they do they just trying to make a little profit. Its not about exposing bands, or trying different things anymore. Everyone's trying to eat and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I just think the bands needs to be a little bit more flexible, start looking at the HMI long term not just the next bal. At the end it should be a win, win, the bands should help the promoters as the promoters helping the bands.

When these guys going overseas to do a big show they take the time to promote the event, because they want people to see that they are playing at big venues. But most of them failed to understand your monthly promoters are your biggest clients, you need them to survived why not help them. At the end of the day the bands has to come to term that we don't have ballers anymore in the business, now we have smarter investors. When a young student trying to put a bal together he or she is not looking for a shout out like back in the day, they are simply looking for a return on investment. And if that doesn't happen he or she will focus on something else which mean you just lost a client.

Bands like Tvice, Carimi, Harmonik, Kreyol, Klass, Zenglen, needs to communicate more with they clients. Its not about you pay or else anymore. Trust me putting a zouk party together is 10 times less than doing a bal so its pretty clear that the bands needs to start thinking of better ways to keep the clients. These guys needs to start looking at the HMI just like any big coporation.


I agree...
Instead of fighting among themselves, the bands should be more flexible with this new wave of promoters who like many have figured are legitimate entrepreneurs.

si se pa sa DJ yo ap fini par taking over HMI la...
se kom si neg yo travay epi DJ yo ap rekolte...
mwen remarke ke koze match-up 2 jazz yo preske pa alamod anko...
se just pran yon jazz epi bay yon DJ 2 mil dola epi gaz kole....
I cant blame them because they're looking at the bottom line...
neg sa yo pa lan koze zanmitay, they just look at the bottom line and most of their parties are successful....

si jazz yo pa leve pye yo..
prodwi pi bon CD e surtout antann yo ak promoteur yo...bagay yo ap gate lan men yo..
kom nou kapab we, se just a few bands kap fe kob sejousi..
tout lot jazz yo ap soufri....
li leu pou komanse eseye fe lot strateji sinon bagay yo ap gate lan men yo..

konpa direk la en danger....
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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Something has to give bro, I don't think anyone should be pressing a panic button but the bands has to come together. They need to start paying more attention to the new breed of entrepreneurs. I personally could care less about a shout out at the end, I am in it to support my family and to help exposure Konpa therefore I need the bands to see it the same way. I would love to see every single band members doing well, it would be a dream come true to see all these talented guys able to financially support they family. But we all need to start looking at the HMI as a business not just for the next gig.
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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

First of all I don't completely agree with what he said.

When he says that the albums nowadays are not as good as they use to I think it's BS. So the last albums of Klass, Nu look, Zenglen, Harmonik, etc.. are ALL BAD? Please... Rolling Eyes

The promoters go at it together for many reasons. First of all financually it's less risk. With today's economy you must be careful. The bands ask for more which is normal. Back in the days se kay zanmi yo to konn domi, but now it's in hotels hence more money to spend. There is more money to spend for good sound and nice venues. Te gen yon epok se nan sousol legliz bal yo te konn fèt.

Now his comment about bands not having 1000 people week in and out… Correct me if I’m wrong, but even back in the days m’pa sonje yon leu kote Zin, Mick yak System Band te konn fè 1000 moun every bal, every week. It’s a business that has ups and downs and depending on the market (the city) it’s different.

From what I’ve been hearing Miami is a bit down nan moman an. It happens. You cannot make a proper assesment based on that. Klass sot fè 2 gwo bal Montreal lst 2 times they came. Nu look sot fè 1950 KI PEYE 2 weeks ago. Carimi/T-Vice pwal chaje ak moun on Easter Sunday in Montreal.

I don’t know what is an acceptable number for each market depending on the band. For example si Klass ak Nu look pat fè 1500 moun AT LEAST it would have been a failure for them.

What I do think that needs to be done is that the musicians should do more promos of their upcoming shows. Posting the flyer on your FB, IG accounts is not enough. For example Harmonik did a skype session with the fans about 2 months ago. That’s very good. Posting snippets on fb and ig. Twitter and BBM sessions…

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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Jimbo, what you said shows that you are new to the HMI. Back in those days system band for example they kon bay more than 2500 people by themselves in Miami and play for two weekends back to back. 1000 plus people was expected the following sunday. Ki denye fwa ou tande on bagay konsa fet ak nouveau djazz yo. Now 2 djazz pa ka bawou sa on djazz te kon ba ou. Mande sa Sweet Mickey kon fe. Zin, phantom by themselves. In terms of album sales let not even get into it. Nimpot vye album te kon van as must as what we are calling our top selling album these days.
On another front, we are going back to what Mr. Brisseaux stated recently as a reason why we are where we are. Another poster made some valid point about the communication needed between the music makers and the public.
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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

My radar tune out when I listening to people who like referencing days of old like the HMI was better back then. To be honest, give credit where credit is due, the bands are better in managing their business. Both Harmonik and Carimi Nu Look made the charts in levels I never in my lifetime seen even back when Joubert Charles had all these bands in his lineup and truly they were only known in our circles.
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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

truthbetold wrote:
Jimbo, what you said shows that you are new to the HMI. Back in those days system band for example they kon bay more than 2500 people by themselves in Miami and play for two weekends back to back. 1000 plus people was expected the following sunday. Ki denye fwa ou tande on bagay konsa fet ak nouveau djazz yo. Now 2 djazz pa ka bawou sa on djazz te kon ba ou. Mande sa Sweet Mickey kon fe. Zin, phantom by themselves. In terms of album sales let not even get into it. Nimpot vye album te kon van as must as what we are calling our top selling album these days.
On another front, we are going back to what Mr. Brisseaux stated recently as a reason why we are where we are. Another poster made some valid point about the communication needed between the music makers and the public.


How many bands got ranked on Billboard back in the day?

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